ARTH101: Discussion Topic 2, Defining Art


#166

Art is anything created by an individual that guides another. Even the simplest drawing of an everyday common object can be made into a striking and moving piece. Not everyone likes trucks for example and we have a choice; as with art, we all are not expected like every single work.

I agree that “anything interpreted by any individual as art becomes art.” It is a personal decision to give something like an art piece any importance.


#167

I am not sure if anyone else is doing this course currently? I am jus dipping in at present. I am an ex-art teacher and have painted and printed during my lifetime. I am presently researching William Blake’s work. He is very iconocalstic regarding, for example - copying nature! He says anyone can copy the superficial appearance of things. He painted an inner world of vision and spirituality! What do you think of Blake’s visual work?? Is it archaic?


#168

Art should engage. Art should create a reaction. Art should make us feel something whether that be sorrow or joy, love or even hate. If something is truly ‘art’ then there should be the je ne sais quoi that defies an objective definition. I see a painting and I can appreciate why it is good, colour, form, detail and design, but if I am not emotionally engaged by it then is it art? I can see a play that is flawed in many ways but can be struck by a single moment to laugh or cry and I find the art in that moment.

So perhaps there are two definitions that are not mutually exclusive but can indeed stand separately.

Art that is produced for beauty and expression. The sort of art that makes you think. The kind that can be appreciated on the academic level. We share this art with others.

Art that touches us in ways that we can’t always find suitable words for. The sort that makes us stop and stare. The kind that lets us shed tears of happiness or sadness. We share this art with the artist.


#169

Q: Do you agree with the definition for ‘art’ as it’s explained in the reading above? Why or why not? Can you add to the definition? Is your definition coming from a subjective or objective perspective?

A: Firstly i would like to explore the idea of our need to ‘Define’ something. The moment we give in to this idea, then the process is merely a bound exploration in our cognitive framework or ‘Human’ scale.Subjective or objective are both sides of the same coin. Our mind is in a constant state of dynamics,transition some may call it.It is stemming not only from the cognitive/non cognitive influences that immediately surrounds it, but there is a larger energy cycle at play, which manifests at various levels of this transition, attaining variety of forms. We generally call it the ‘Current state of Mind’.
The basic intellect of the mind is in its inherent nature, is insecure. It is constantly looking to attach identity to everything that surrounds it. That is the basis of perception and later comes the entire layering of values that we attach to our perception, for which we have names or ’ Definitions’.
So from the human perspective, art can be seen as a phenomenon of human endeavor, that is linked directly to this very perspective framework created by human psyche.
I definitely do not agree to the holistic understanding of art as ‘Agreeable’ or ‘aesthetically appealing’.
I rather feel, that Art as we know, is a limited series of formal expression.( be it in music, visual art, performance, dark arts, lifestyle effectiveness, capacitive uniqueness etc) When i see the european cave paintings of 10 centuryBC, and the ‘Ikkat’ graphics of Indonesia that developed about a century later, and agian the ‘Patola’ weaving prints of Gujarat, India, there have these graphics pattern that has striking resemblance to each other. None of these civilizations had direct links to each other, yet, in their formal expression of art, we see the same patterns repeating itself.
I believe that the creating forces of the universe, a story/truth not completely known to us, has a way of movement. It is a pattern that different life forms(humans, animals, other creatures) read, identify and react in their own perception language. What do we seek?

The question of 'Ordinary and ‘extra ordinary’ is thus simply a change of perspective frame. Art doesn’t make the ordinary into extra ordinary, rather it is simply bringing us close to the realities of the ordinary, which we then find extra ordinary!
As the mystic poet Rumi said " Silence is the language of God, All else is poor translation"

I hope i ve added some positive meaning to this very interesting conversation/question.
Thank you.
24 Apr 2018


ARTH101: Discussion Topic 3, The Artistic Process
#170

Do you agree with the definition for ‘art’ as it’s explained in the reading above? Why or why not? Can you add to the definition? Is your definition coming from a subjective or objective perspective?

I agree with the definition of art as “the expression of our experience.” Artists express themselves from what they know and their worldview.


#171

Discussion Topic 2: Defining Art
Do you agree with the definition for ‘art’ as it’s explained in the reading above? Why or why not? Can you add to the definition? Is your definition coming from a subjective or objective perspective?

I don’t think you can ever actually categorize art as any one thing. It is constantly changing and people who work in an artistic field change with it but even people who don’t work in that field can create art, you can create art on accident. What someone does just to amuse themselves while bored someone else can consider a work of art.
Because of this, I don’t have a definition for art and I try not to keep one.


#172

I agree with the definition as it is discussed in the reading that art is ever changing in its definition and varies with who is doing the defining. Like the adage, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder,” art is essentially the same. The definition of beauty varies from person to person, from culture to culture, and as the times change. I believe that this is also true of art. I would have to agree with Thomas Merton in his work No Man is an Island, “art enables us to find ourselves and lose ourselves at the same time.” In an earlier post, I described art as my therapy. It is a way I can work through my emotions and go on a soul-searching journey. Without art, I truly believe that the world would be a much darker, much uninspiring place to live.


#173

we are ,our values , our expression is art .its a feeling to express our joy ,pain. the voice of our thoughts , ideas .it is a tangible entity .


#174

I agree, Art reflect our personalities.


#175

Art is a creative expression of the mind! It can be brought to life using any means,media or medium.


#176

I define art to be active in several categories. First of all, art is unique and very cultural. Every human being short, tall, fat or skinny is a live form of art. The different shapes, sizes, distinctive features, personalities helps to creature a picture that represents their being. All of this I believe is apart of their personal art form.


#177

I liked what I read in the introduction: Art is the expression of our experience. For me art is something that stays with me, which makes me think, which makes an impression on me, which after years and years still makes an impression on me just thinking about it. That can be literature, painting, sculpture, anything. I myself practise fibre arts (lace, wall hangings) but I appreciate any form of art as long as it touches me in some way.


#178

Q: Do you agree with the definition for ‘art’ as it’s explained in the reading above? Why or why not? Can you add to the definition? Is your definition coming from a subjective or objective perspective?

Like many definitions of complex things it becomes so broad as to become almost meaningless. I am not even convinced art is uniquely human, as there was Congo the chimp who painted once. I am sure Dolphins embody art in their swim and play and probably whales in their songs.

I don’t think art makes the viewer question or feel anything by some sort of magical transition from the artist to the viewer, it is simply a product of the richness of a particular human’s experience and imagination - the richness of our exterior and interior life in short. I think you will think, feel or question whatever it is you bring from your own exterior and interior life when exploring what it is you share or do not share (in any measurement: culturally, biologically, ideologically) with the maker of the art.

In the end it states that art is a question of ‘agreement’ (about what is art and how we define it), which I agree with, but it doesn’t say much really except that art, like virtually everything else about human life, is an agreed-upon definition between people.

Definition: Art is uniquely human and tied directly to culture. It takes the ordinary and makes it extraordinary. It asks questions about who we are, what we value, the meaning of beauty and the human condition. As an expressive medium it allows us to experience sublime joy, deep sorrow, confusion and clarity. It tests our strengths, vulnerabilities and resolve. It gives voice to ideas and feelings, connects us to the past, reflects the present and anticipates the future. Along these lines, art history, combined with anthropology and literature, are three main sources in observing, recording and interpreting our human past. Visual art is a rich and complex subject whose definition is in flux as the culture around it changes. Because of this, how we define art is in essence a question of agreement. In this respect, we can look again to the dictionary’s definition for an understanding of exactly what to look for when we proclaim something as ‘art.’


#180

No doubt that art is reflective. Different people work on different perspectives of art as an example a person interested in art having some kind of pain or trauma surely he 'll make other people realize with his pain through his art either it is music, a painting, a sculpture, a photograph etc. but according to my view point every best and worst this present in this universe reflects art through its presence the sun rise or the sunset, the fresh leaf on a branch or a dry autumn leaf, a dead flower or a developing bud everything reflects a better part of art by its presence. One needs the sight to see. I paint different things by removing the difference between the fantasy and the reality and merge them into a new form to create my kind of art, because art is creating something collecting different imaginations and skills.


#181

ok then


#182

love this. i agree with you 100%


#183

How would you define art?

Christian, here again!

Art is defined very differently by different people, however, I think Warhol said it best, “Art is Anything You Can Get Away With”.

It’s in the eye of the beholder. What someone considers art someone else may not consider it at all.


#184

How would you define art?

Art is anything that stimulates your senses. It could be a building or a sculpture. A song, a piece of literature or a painting. It could be a smell or a flavor. It could be a perfectly architectured bird’s nest or the perfect spotted pattern on a quail’s egg.

It is anything that brings the human to be present in their senses and evokes emotion of any kind.


#185

Art means everything to me. Whether I make a wire sculpture or a greeting card, art will always be apart of my life.


#186

Do you agree with the definition for ‘art’ as it’s explained in the reading above? Why or why not? Can you add to the definition? Is your definition coming from a subjective or objective perspective?
“It is the expression of our experience.” I agree, because each one has his own art. You can cook artistically, talk artistically, move artistically, smile artistically, play sports artistically, you can actually think artistically and do your everyday duties and job artistically. So Art is in each and every individual of us.

“Art is uniquely human and tied directly to culture.” yes Art is a human and it differs from one to another, as unique as our finger print however, it is not necessarily tied to the individual culture in which I don’t agree with that specifically. It is more tied to the soul of each individual and might be affected by our experiences and culture but not necessarily.

“It takes the ordinary and makes it extraordinary.” I Don’t agree with that, what actually art does to a specific subject is that it focuses the senses on it, making zoom on it, living the present in this specific subject exposed. It makes us see the beauty in things we may be take its presence in our reality for granted. Art is like prayers or meditations. Art is seeing the beauty in each and every single detail in our reality in different many aspects as many as there are different individuals with different souls and different finger prints.

“It asks questions about who we are, what we value, the meaning of beauty and the human condition.” It doesn’t question, it answers." Yes, it allows us to experience others point of views, others beauty perspectives and others feelings.

“It gives voice to ideas and feelings, connects us to the past, reflects the present and anticipates the future.” It doesn’t give voice, It is just connecting us consciously or subconsciously with other timelines and perspectives or ideas.

“Visual art is a rich and complex subject whose definition is in flux as the culture around it changes. Because of this, how we define art is in essence a question of agreement.”

It is flux for the fact that we have different perspectives may be affected by culture, society, religion, or family but not necessarily.

for me, I can define art as:
Art is like meditation or prayer, it makes us live the moment and focus on the beauty of very detailed things we take their presence for granted. It differs from an individual to another just like a finger print, and it feels beautiful to see the beauty of others finger prints, the beauty in the differences in perspectives about the beauty that their eyes see.